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Category:Churches by patron saint

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The churches in question have nothing in common except that they are named after the same saint; this is textbook case of WP:SHAREDNAME. - choster (talk) 22:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pompeii (gens)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 19#Category:Pompeii (gens)

Category:Jose Mari Chan

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per G5. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 14:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary parent category per WP:OCEPON and numerous precedent. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Female suicides

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: convert to container category, which will hold Category:Female suicide bombers and Category:People who committed sati. Remove the articles from the category. This category can be renominated for further discussion as needed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:07, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-diffusing trivial intersection that does not aid navigation. Categories are not a place for collecting statistics on comparative gender. All the suicides are already by date, so this is just a second/third/fourth tag by sex. The few relevant subcategories are already heavily cross-categorized. The others (actors, models, writers) are already up for deletion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile I checked the articles. Quite a few were not categorized by date yet. But now they are. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Male suicides

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:09, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-diffusing trivial intersection that does not aid navigation. Categories are not a place for collecting statistics on comparative gender. All the suicides are already by date, so this is just a second/third/fourth tag by sex. The few relevant subcategories are already heavily cross-categorized. The others (actors, comedians, writers) are already up for deletion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile I checked the articles. Quite a few were not categorized by date yet. But now they are. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Architecture and landmarks in Sri Lanka by district

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge all Timrollpickering (talk) 23:16, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging:
more Architecture categories
more Landmarks categories
Nominator's rationale: merge these are two almost empty category layers except they largely duplicate the tree of buildings and structures. Following this, I will also nominate the architecture and landmarks categories by province which suffer from the same problem as the ones by district. This is a follow-up on this earlier discussion. @William Allen Simpson and Justus Nussbaum: pinging contributors to earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Entertainers who committed suicide

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:27, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. There may have been many years between the occupation and the suicide, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children. See previous:
  1. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 29#Category:Chefs who committed suicide
  2. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 12#Suicides by occupation
  3. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 24#Category:Musicians who committed suicide
William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Mayors of places in Indonesia

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The result of the discussion was: Merge all Timrollpickering (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just one, two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:24, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Maskilim

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete. A proposal to rename as discussed by some editors could be made in a new nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: listify and delete, not a defining characteristic, the term "Maskilim" is not even mentioned in some articles. A list can better explain in text and with references why these people are considered to be Maskilim. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • While there is a mention of Haskalah in the Mendelssohn article, he cannot possibly be Maskilim, because he died before Haskalah began. Retrospective categorization is not a good idea. Rather than adding a separate sub-category, it would probably be best to list the people. Lists are easier to verify.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:31, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Haskalah began around the early 1770s, Mendelssohn died in 1786; there is virtually no debate among scholars whether or not he was a Maskil. Again, insofar as there are are categories for members of other Enlightenment movements, I fail to see why the Jewish Enlightenment should be treated any differently. Kyuko (talk) 14:23, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to the main article: "The very name Haskalah became a standard self-appellation only in 1860". So Mendelssohn would not have referred to himself as Maskil or Maskilim and would not have referred to himself as part of Haskalah. Can readily be seen as a progenitor, but we don't categorize people retrospectively. That's yet another reason a list would be better. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFF.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Ancient Greeks didn't call themselves 'Ancient Greeks', the word 'medieval' was coined in the 1820s ([4]), and "the term 'Enlightenment' emerged in English in the later part of the 19th century" ([5]). Yet these are the modern terms used—yes, retrospectively—to refer to specific historical periods or movements, and the people associated to them. There is precedent. Also, WP:OTHERCATSEXIST. Kyuko (talk) 18:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aviti

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Violates WP:SHAREDNAME. Avitus by itself was not a specific family name in ancient Rome. See here a closed and successful request to rename another category using more or less the same rationale. Avilich (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films who won Saturn Award for Best Science Fiction Film

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The result of the discussion was: rename, or at least merge confirmed. A fresh nomination to focus solely on whether or not to keep Category:Best Science Fiction Film Saturn Award winners could be held, as not all participants gave views on that. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:55, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Standardization per Category:Best Picture Academy Award winners and Category:Best Film BAFTA Award winners‎. Films are not alive so "who" is not an appropriate way to reference them. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree to the renaming. Lieutenant commander Spock (talk) 5:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Ooops, I misread the nominator. Thanks. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fútbol Alcobendas Sport players

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category should be moved to Category:CD Paracuellos Antamira players, after the club's change of name. MYS77 ✉ 00:40, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Gliese 682

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gliese and GJ objects. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The system isn't particularly notable, and the article for Gliese 682 b is just a redirect, not a real article. Kepler-1229b talk
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Katagami, Aichi

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The result of the discussion was: (speedy) delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This city does not exist; seemingly created in error (perhaps mistaken for Category:Katagami, Akita, as also suggested by the categorization of Category:Katagami, Aichi within Category:Cities in Akita Prefecture), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Books about the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT and likely WP:SMALLCAT
This category groups 2 articles about books about the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging. Neither of the target categories for upmerge are very large and this category doesn't have much room for growth, at least with English language publications, and it's has been around since 2014. No objection to recreating later if I'm wrong and it ever gets up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christmas Island support structures

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OC generally
I assumed this was a Buildings & Structures category but the only thing in it is Category:Courts of Christmas Island which is already well categorized. I didn't see any equivalent categories under Category:States and territories of Australia so, whatever the intent here, it's not currently aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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